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Is Bryan Johnson’s Blueprint for a 150-Year Life Worth It?
video
Interesting
Times with Ross Douthat 13 August 2026
For my final episode as host of “Interesting Times,”
I wanted a fitting finale
— a conversation that encapsulates the ambition of this show:
examining how seemingly radical ideas are steadily entering
the mainstream of American politics, technology and culture.
Few ideas are as radical as the hope of significant life
extension
and the quest to live forever.
My guest today thinks he can outrun death.
After selling his tech company for hundreds of millions of
dollars
and experiencing a profound religious crisis,
Bryan Johnson turned his own body into the ultimate science
project,
centered on an explicit mission: Don’t die.
But why does Johnson want to live forever,
and what lessons can his algorithmically driven lifestyle
bring to the rest of us?
It’s been an honor hosting this podcast
nd navigating these strange waters with you.
“Interesting Times” will be back with new episodes and new
hosts
in the fall.
YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoPJ5cJBhoo

Hayley Okines at 14.
Photograph: Martin Argles
Guardian
Progeria campaigner Hayley Okines dies at 17
Teenager from Bexhill, East Sussex,
worked to raise awareness of condition
that causes those
affected to age eight times faster
The Guardian
Friday 3 April
2015 10.59 BST
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/03/
progeria-campaigner-hayley-okines-die
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Life%20Expectancy%20Final_web.pdf
- July 2010
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USA
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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/13/
opinion/interesting-times-bryan-johnson.html - NYT video
eternal life USA
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USA
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live
forever UK
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scientists-harness-ai-to-reverse-ageing-
in-billion-dollar-industry
live forever
USA
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rate USA
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/
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immortality
USA
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/25/
opinion/cohen-when-im-sixty-four.html
progeria,
a condition
that causes those affected
to age eight times faster
UK
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/03/
progeria-campaigner-hayley-okines-dies
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